Dario Amodei of Anthropic’s Hopes and Fears for the Future of A.I.

…we train claude 3 7 you know more to focus on these real world tasks we also felt like it was a bit weird that you know in the reasoning models that folks have offered it's generally…proper use

…have offered it's generally been there's a regular model and then there's a reasoning model this would be like if a human had two brains and it's like you know you're like you can you can talk…proper use

…and then there's a reasoning model this would be like if a human had two brains and it's like you know you're like you can you can talk to brain number one if you're asking me a…filler · filler

…reasoning model this would be like if a human had two brains and it's like you know you're like you can you can talk to brain number one if you're asking me a quick question like what's…filler · filler

…you're like you can you can talk to brain number one if you're asking me a quick question like what's your name and you're talking to brain number two if you're asking me to like prove a…proper use

…quick question like what's your name and you're talking to brain number two if you're asking me to like prove a mathematical theorem because i have to like sit down for 20 minutes it'd no no no…filler · filler

…to brain number two if you're asking me to like prove a mathematical theorem because i have to like sit down for 20 minutes it'd no no no comment brutal no comment on any relevance to it…filler · filler

…evolution would be the model decides for itself what the appropriate time to think is right humans are like that or at least can be like that right if i ask you your name you know you're…proper use

…itself what the appropriate time to think is right humans are like that or at least can be like that right if i ask you your name you know you're not like huh how long should i…proper use

…or at least can be like that right if i ask you your name you know you're not like huh how long should i think of it give me 20 minutes right to determine my name but…quotative · filler

…it give me 20 minutes right to determine my name but if i say hey you know i'd like you to do an analysis of you know this stock or i'd like you to you know prove…proper use

…say hey you know i'd like you to do an analysis of you know this stock or i'd like you to you know prove this mathematical theorem you know humans who are able to do that task…proper use

…but it's still valuable to give a bound on how long it'll think so we've kind of taken like a big step in that direction but we're not to where we want to be yet yeah so…filler · filler

…thing called claude code which is more of a command line tool but i think also on things like you know complex instruction following or just like here i want you to understand this document or you…proper use

…a command line tool but i think also on things like you know complex instruction following or just like here i want you to understand this document or you know i want you to use this series…proper use

…safety so not dangerous per se and i always want to be clear about this because i feel like there's this constant conflation of present dangers with future dangers it's not that there aren't present dangers and…proper use

…a lot you know i think i said i even testified in front of the senate for things like you know misuse risks with for example biological or chemical warfare or the ai autonomy risks i said…proper use

…7 sonnet as we wrote in the model card we always do these you could almost call them like you know trials like trials with a control where we have you know some human who doesn't know…filler · filler

…wrote in the model card we always do these you could almost call them like you know trials like trials with a control where we have you know some human who doesn't know enough much about some…filler · filler

…with a control where we have you know some human who doesn't know enough much about some area like biology and we basically see how much does the model help them to engage in some mock bad…proper use

…some new threat vector that wasn't there before i think it's very important to say this isn't about like oh did the model give me the sequence for this thing did it give me a cookbook for…filler · filler

…capable of if not if not mitigated that you know would would somewhat increase the risk of something like really dangerous or really bad happening you know like put yourself in the eyes of like a law…filler · filler

…know would would somewhat increase the risk of something like really dangerous or really bad happening you know like put yourself in the eyes of like a law enforcement officer or you know the fbi or something…filler · filler

…of something like really dangerous or really bad happening you know like put yourself in the eyes of like a law enforcement officer or you know the fbi or something there's like a new threat vector there's…filler · filler

…yourself in the eyes of like a law enforcement officer or you know the fbi or something there's like a new threat vector there's a new kind of attack it doesn't mean the end of the world…filler · filler

…in some way there are folks who are kind of you know independent who want to analyze data like you know that's maybe kind of like the prosumer side of things right and i think within that…filler · filler

…are kind of you know independent who want to analyze data like you know that's maybe kind of like the prosumer side of things right and i think within that there's a lot to go in terms…filler · filler

…they are at helping you with anything that's focused on kind of productivity or even a complex task like planning a trip even outside that you know if you're just trying to make a personal assistant to…proper use

…i guess i'm saying there's there's the market is more segmented than you think it is it looks like it's all one thing but it's more segmented than you think it is yeah so i think this…proper use

…is you know we look at the state of the world and you know we have these autocracies like china and russia and i've always worried i've worried you know maybe for a decade that ai could…proper use

…but but i don't want the autocratic governments to have a military advantage and so you know things like the export controls which i discussed in that post are one of the things we can do to…proper use

…the plan a it just it's just not a realistic way of looking at the world these seem like really yeah i mean you know i have to tell you i was deeply disappointed in the summit…proper use

…this essay machines of loving grace about all the great things you know part of that essay was like man for someone who worries about risks i feel like i have a better vision of the benefits…quotative · filler

…things you know part of that essay was like man for someone who worries about risks i feel like i have a better vision of the benefits than a lot of people who spend all their time…proper use

…a lot of people who spend all their time talking about the benefits but but in the background like i said as the models have gotten more powerful the amazing and wondrous things that we can do…proper use

…continues on it doesn't care i had a yeah so yeah i think i think it did feel like that to me you know the thing i've started to tell people that i think you know maybe…proper use

…say so what did the officials what did the company people what did the political system do and like probably your number one goal is don't look like a fool and so i've just been encouraged like…filler · filler

…company people what did the political system do and like probably your number one goal is don't look like a fool and so i've just been encouraged like don't be careful what you say don't don't look…proper use

…like probably your number one goal is don't look like a fool and so i've just been encouraged like don't be careful what you say don't don't look like a fool in retrospect and you know a…quotative · filler

…a fool and so i've just been encouraged like don't be careful what you say don't don't look like a fool in retrospect and you know a lot of my thinking is just driven by like you…proper use

…look like a fool in retrospect and you know a lot of my thinking is just driven by like you know aside from just wanting the right outcome like i don't want to look like a fool…filler · filler

…lot of my thinking is just driven by like you know aside from just wanting the right outcome like i don't want to look like a fool and you know i think i think at that conference…filler · filler

…driven by like you know aside from just wanting the right outcome like i don't want to look like a fool and you know i think i think at that conference like you know some people are…proper use

…i don't want to look like a fool and you know i think i think at that conference like you know some people are going to look like fools we're yeah so i've been i've been watching…filler · filler

…you know i think i think at that conference like you know some people are going to look like fools we're yeah so i've been i've been watching this for you know 10 years right i've been…proper use

…we are actually in the world where things are going to happen you know i'd give numbers more like 70 and 80 percent and less like 40 or systems that are much smarter than humans at almost…hedge · filler

…things are going to happen you know i'd give numbers more like 70 and 80 percent and less like 40 or systems that are much smarter than humans at almost everything you know i maybe 70 80…hedge · filler

…a few thousand people right when you know you would you would just you know you'd talk to like you know just like you know super weird people who you know believe and basically no one else…filler · filler

…right when you know you would you would just you know you'd talk to like you know just like you know super weird people who you know believe and basically no one else did now it's more…filler · filler

…you know super weird people who you know believe and basically no one else did now it's more like a few million people out of a few billion and yes many of them are located in san…hedge · filler

…focus on this issues let alone the person in louisiana let alone the person in kenya it seems like that's actually a big barrier right because i think addressing the risks while maximizing the benefits i think…proper use

…at all but they require subtlety and they require a complex conversation once things get polarized once it's like we're going to cheer for this set of words and boo for that set of words nothing nothing…quotative · filler

…and boo for that set of words nothing nothing good gets done look bringing ai benefits to everyone like curing you know previously incurable diseases that's not a partisan issue the left shouldn't be against it you…proper use

…you know in terms of what we're seeing in our own model we're going to be really careful like you know if if we really declare that a risk is present now we're going to come with…filler · filler

…will tell you when there is danger imminently we have not warned of imminent danger yet think that's like 60 percent of the reason really no no i think like you know i think it relates to…hedge · filler

…warned of imminent danger yet think that's like 60 percent of the reason really no no i think like you know i think it relates to this like this present and future thing like people look at…filler · filler

…percent of the reason really no no i think like you know i think it relates to this like this present and future thing like people look at like you know the chatbot they're like we're talking…filler · filler

…no i think like you know i think it relates to this like this present and future thing like people look at like you know the chatbot they're like we're talking to a chatbot like what what…filler · filler

…you know i think it relates to this like this present and future thing like people look at like you know the chatbot they're like we're talking to a chatbot like what what the fuck are you…filler · filler

…to this like this present and future thing like people look at like you know the chatbot they're like we're talking to a chatbot like what what the fuck are you stupid like you think the chatbot…quotative · filler